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[ClarkNight]

I will start with one question;

(Opposite swing=objects appearing to move 'swing by' in the opposite direction the eyes, head move to.)

Teachers emphasize that far objects show a same direction swing while close objects show a opposite swing (as when doing the sway, long swing) but some don't emphasize the opposite swing can be seem on a far object when shifting on it, (not doing sway, long sing) same as it can be seen when shifting on a close object.
The far object shows a smaller opposite movement but it's still there.
I think teachers should include this entire information. One strict old time Bates teacher clarified this for me but he didn't understand about the same direction swing.
Some modern teachers left out the small shifting opposite swing of far objects, tending to concentrate on the same direction swing of far objects.

When shifting on a far object; increasing the head, body movement, (like turning into a small or larger sway or long swing) when it becomes longer than the shift of the eyes from one point to another on the object your looking at; the far object will start to show a same direction swing; moves in the same direction the eyes, head move to.

After I was told, "yes, you can see a far opposite swing if your central fixation is perfect"; I began to practice shifting on far objects and small parts and when that opposite swing occurs; relaxation occurs, the clarity increases and remains.

Someone mentioned about the constant movement of the eyes, like a motor always in movement, 'saccades, optical drift, high frequency tremors'... You can see that small swing occurring due to the eyes shifting. Parsons taught the man that taught me; https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Visionsenz/info

[Spagetti]

Hello Mary and Gang, I notice when i squeeze my eyeballs hard for 3-5 seconds i have temporary clarity.
i used the brock string using very small beads and string sometimes when i am shifting i have a hard time lining up the beds sometimes i have to adjust my eyes so there is only one bead instead of doubles of the same color when switching. can i improve this?
Can u explain the secret switching and how to do it?

Thanx kindly,

Spagetti

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Hi Folks, one more question how long does one practice the figure 8 daily?
when one is reading fine print is it advisable to move the head and eyes in unison?

Spagetti

[ClarkNight]

Hey Mr. Spagetti,

Welcome!

Squeezing the eyes; do you mean closing the lids tight?
If yes; Might be a form of squinting or just the closing helps. Relaxed gentle closing is good. Squinting is not. I would avoid the squeezing. Just do the normal natural practices and you will get clear flashes that last longer and longer, become permanent. The fact that you can get these flashes of clarity proves your eyes can see clear and vision can improve to normal.

Never press on the eyeballs with the hands, fingers... Some teachers advise this but it's not good to do.

Here's a bead strong video;



This video is mainly for close vision but it's good for learning where the central field is, how to line up the close and far objects;



You don't have to use the very small beads. Start with the regular size if its easier. The small are for close vision, curing presbyopia which you stated you do not have. They can be used for far also but start with the bigger, easier to see ones. Use buttons if you don't have beads.

If you are getting a double image of the bead your looking at; that means you need to improve convergence or un-convergence at that distance, the eyes fovea's moving upon that bead, both eyes together.
This is actually good; you have discovered the thing that needs correcting. Did you place the bead string on a pole so you don't have to hold it up with the hand. Holding it up too long can cause muscle tension that travels into the neck, head, then eye muscles.

Remember to keep the string centered between the eyes. NOT out to the left, right, up, down... Keep it straight and centered. Never place the bead string in front of one eye.

Relax and shift part to part on the bead, blink. You are supposed to see double images of the beads your not looking at (when using both eyes). That is normal. For the bead you are looking directly at; that bead should appear as one bead.
When using one eye; there are no double images.

If you think one eye is out, in... a bit; you can correct it with this; http://cleareyesight-batesmethod.info/id66.html Move all the way down the page to the Phoria Directional Swing.

Secret switching is on the last pages of the Perfect Sight Without Glasses book. See the man with the eye patch. Read directions carefully; never do the secret switching with both eyes; its only for one eye at a time with the close and far objects in front of that eye. DO NOT use the bead string with secret switching.

Some is here, move down the page; http://cleareyesight-batesmethod.info/id8.html

I have placed a mini PDF with pictures here. Read it so you have all directions. This is extracted from that Perfect Sight book. Directions for plain switching is on pages before the secret switching.
  Switching, Secret Switching.pdf (Size: 25.48 MB / Downloads: 271)

There are additional new pictures for this but its a big project to be done later. Will post it ASAP;

For plain switching; you can do it with both eyes and one eye; always with the objects between the eyes.

Figure eight; whatever is comfortable. I do 1-2 minutes a day. Sometimes smaller ones throughout the day for fun. Its up to you. If the neck is soar, don't overdo. Draw it in the air and relax, move gently though the tight muscle when you feel that spot.

Do the cross crawl and long swing, sway to increase benefits of all.

Fine print; Yes, the head moves in unison with the eyes, in the same direction. Flows nice and easy. The neck is loose, relaxed.
Movement changes with the size of the print; if you reading microscopic then the movement will be smaller as the head moves with the eyes along the tiny 1 or 3/4 inch page.

The e-mail notification of posts on this GuestPage is still not working so if I don't reply right away; send me a e-mail telling me you posted and want me to get on here and answer.
Trying to fix this.

Note; sometimes I rewrite posts, improve them so recheck it in a hour.
This one is done.

Thank you so very much for posting here. This helps others learn and see clear.

[ClarkNight]

I made you a video for secret switching. I will look it over again then publish so you can watch. If you have questions on any of this feel free to ask.

P.S. to spagagitti;
I conquered pollen allergy pretty much in the past but developed a new one on top of the pollen this spring; allergic to my pet squirrel shedding like crazy. Left ear (on tight muscle upper neck injury side c-1-2...) all stuffy, cottony. Any suggestions for natural cure? Your acupressure, tai chi helped clear the other problem.

Update; video is still in refinement. 2 more days. Have to be sure its perfect.
And thanks for allergy, spritual info; helped.

[Spagetti]

Hi so we have a seamstrees @work went out to the dollar store and had her sew a velcro patch on this blue ball cap so i will have her sew a another strip of material to the other adjoining strip and cut the material it in the middle so u have L/R patch when needed I loved ur idea of ur homemade eye patches Wonderful.

Spagetti

Eye patch hat is from Janet Goodrich. Don't know where she got it or maybe she invented it.

[ClarkNight]

(06-17-2014 04:52 PM)Spagetti Wrote:  Hi so we have a seamstrees @work went out to the dollar store and had her sew a velcro patch on this blue ball cap so i will have her sew a another strip of material to the other adjoining strip and cut the material it in the middle so u have L/R patch when needed I loved ur idea of ur homemade eye patches Wonderful.

Spagetti

Good idea!

Still working on video. Almost done. Today Thursday its done! Glad you asked about this, got a good video that needed to be done yrs ago. Thanks Spagetti!

[andrewc]

(06-13-2014 08:59 PM)Spagetti Wrote:  Hello Mary and Gang, I notice when i squeeze my eyeballs hard for 3-5 seconds i have temporary clarity.
i used the brock string using very small beads and string sometimes when i am shifting i have a hard time lining up the beds sometimes i have to adjust my eyes so there is only one bead instead of doubles of the same color when switching. can i improve this?
Can u explain the secret switching and how to do it?

Thanx kindly,

Spagetti

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Hi Folks, one more question how long does one practice the figure 8 daily?
when one is reading fine print is it advisable to move the head and eyes in unison?

Spagetti

Hi, my name is Andrew - what is your name? Why are you squeezing your eyeballs, if not to quickly demonstrate what you are doing as a wrong habit? Could you describe your vision history - how long you have worn lenses, prescription, etc.? How do you use them on a daily basis, mostly for close work, distance, etc.?

[Spagetti]

Hi Andrew, I am Angelo wore glasses for 20 yrs, 15 for contacts as i play hockey i stopped wearing contacts for 4 weeks since i came to this site
I am nearsighted i have not wore glasses for about the same time things are blurry further out but i can still drive maybe not legally so i where them over my head just in case i need to see i will flip them down. I would say i do not where them 98% of the time when i go to work i leave the in the car, fine print is really good but if i look down at the floor smaller objects like stones and other things are harder to look at but larger objects like cars are ok but slighty blurry as i am driving the further down the road i look the worst it gets.
seeing colors is no problem but again further away more blurry i can really see the lights off the cars and the sunlight ok
any advice for the astig removal i am currently doing the switching shifting close, middle and far exercises i printed out that Mary e mailed me. 5 min both eyes then the right and both eyes again. i hope this correct.
I seen a utube video and they recommended squeezing the eyes tightly as this relaxes the eyes so i gather there a lot of incorrect info so thanx for that advice as i will not do that anymore.

Thanx for u u guys do muchly appreciated.

Ang
rx is -3 .50 both eyes astig in the L -.25 R -.75 cyl 80 and 90

[andrewc]

(06-18-2014 11:15 PM)Spagetti Wrote:  Hi Andrew, I am Angelo wore glasses for 20 yrs, 15 for contacts as i play hockey i stopped wearing contacts for 4 weeks since i came to this site
I am nearsighted i have not wore glasses for about the same time things are blurry further out but i can still drive maybe not legally so i where them over my head just in case i need to see i will flip them down. I would say i do not where them 98% of the time when i go to work i leave the in the car, fine print is really good but if i look down at the floor smaller objects like stones and other things are harder to look at but larger objects like cars are ok but slighty blurry as i am driving the further down the road i look the worst it gets.
seeing colors is no problem but again further away more blurry i can really see the lights off the cars and the sunlight ok
any advice for the astig removal i am currently doing the switching shifting close, middle and far exercises i printed out that Mary e mailed me. 5 min both eyes then the right and both eyes again. i hope this correct.
I seen a utube video and they recommended squeezing the eyes tightly as this relaxes the eyes so i gather there a lot of incorrect info so thanx for that advice as i will not do that anymore.

Thanx for u u guys do muchly appreciated.

Ang
rx is -3 .50 both eyes astig in the L -.25 R -.75 cyl 80 and 90

Hi Angelo,

yes, there's a TON of misleading information on the internet. Some of it is marketed so well it gets a lot of people to open their wallets for a 'system' promising to cure all their vision problems. Beware. Most everything you need to know is free, Clark has spent a lot of time putting a wealth of information here, you just want to keep it simple and find a way to fit it into your day, each day.

There is no real technique specifically for astigmatism - any technique that helps you relax and release tension in the eye muscles, that helps myopia will also help astigmatism. Of course, feedback is always helpful, so if you can see vertical lines better than horizontal due to your astigmatism, take notice of horizontal patterns throughout the day - shift around on them, and see how the horizontal ones come in and out of focus, how it fluxuates when you look in a relaxed way..... if you have an astigmatism chart, look at that each day from a comfortable distance, and palm for a few minutes and look at it, shift around on it, imagine the horizontal lines clear. I had 1.5 D of astigmatism, and found it helpful to remember and often imagine a short, sharp, clear thin horizontal line. When you can remember and imagine well, it's amazing how it influences your vision.

[Spagetti]

Thanx for the info always helpful and how long did it take to get your astigmatism down? also i use a magic bag and heat it up and put it on my eyes for a bout 2-3 minutes it seems to help. your thoughts?

Ang

[ClarkNight]

Mr. Spagetti ;

What's a magic bag? Keep the eyes closed of course. Careful with the heat. I don't use any of these but let me know what it is.

A man I know was trying to invent some kind palming thing so he does not have to hold up his hands. If your idea is right for the Bates Method I might send it to him. He's the blind man in Utah, Loren.

Thanks.

Video one more day. Turned out good. Just doing a 3rd spell check on captions.

[ClarkNight]

Got your email about the bag. Thanks.

I have never tried it.

I would not use it because the eyes have their natural set temperature. Heat from the natural sun on closed eyes is healthy but from other sources I prefer not to use.
No pressure, weight should be on the eyes. Just the natural eyes, natural methods are best.

[ClarkNight]

Here's your video Mr. Spaghetti! Thanks for getting me to pull out of the work rut and get this done!

[Spagetti]

thanx again

[ClarkNight]

Your welcome.

Let me know if you have any questions about use of the weaker lenses.
And let us know your progress. I know it's going to be great!

Mary

[Spagetti]

I have tried them out just to see what there like big difference not having the stig in the glasses but nevertheless they are better than no glasses but i still do not wear my regular or reduced just need them in case of an emergency when i am driving. I have a question on the secret and normal switching . when doing one eye only how close is the pen to the eye. I find in the illustrations she is pretty close to the eye. i find if i get too close i can still see but if i move it out just a wee bit i get that clarity. is it ok if it is not as clear. or stick to where it focuses perfectly?

Spagetti

[ClarkNight]

Hi Spag,

Remember to shift when wearing glasses. This will help adjust the eyes to the weaker lens and no astigmatism prescript. No glasses is the best way to go of course.
With no glasses; If a object is unclear; shift on it. Glasses are the last resort.

The close pen can be placed at a variety of distances. 4 inches out to 1, 2, 3 feet, 10, 15. Does not have to be close all the time. Get a little close practice in to also keep close, reading vision clear.

I like to use street signs, telephone poles standing at 1-10 feet from the closest and looking to the far which can extend for miles, then the horizon after the last pole.

[ClarkNight]

(06-22-2014 10:49 PM)Spagetti Wrote:  thanx again

Video is done. Just about 1 hr. to process on YouTube;



It's for the other man on this forum that also has astigmatism so I'm posting it on both you guys threads. It's a different thing Dr. Bates teaches; variable swing. People say it works. Bates has so many different things you can try.

Here's the PDF from video;
  The Variable Swing and Other Swings; For Clear Eyesight, Astigmatism Removal.pdf (Size: 1.65 MB / Downloads: 295)

[Spagetti]

(06-25-2014 03:43 PM)ClarkNight Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 10:49 PM)Spagetti Wrote:  thanx again

Video is done. Just about 1 hr. to process on YouTube;



It's for the other man on this forum that also has astigmatism so I'm posting it on both you guys threads. It's a different thing Dr. Bates teaches; variable swing. People say it works. Bates has so many different things you can try.

Here's the PDF from video;

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this is so wonderful so there is so much reading out there on ur site theres so many things to try so again thanx u.
I am putting all ur videos and pdfs in a folder just wonderful something more to add to my exercises.
Ang