Glasses; reduce them

[Petersthing70]

Greetings,

Been reading up on natural route to 20-20.
Improvement with 3 month application.

I need help working with my optometrist for new glasses. She will not give low strength for myopia.
I can no longer see using the old glasses but see to 50 or 40 line without which is better than before stared the exercises.

Peter

[ClarkNight]

in process of writing this. Don't read yet!!

Welcome Peter,

It's 'math calculation and experience on your own' when your stuck working with an eye doctor that will not opt for prescribing weaker prescriptions as your eyesight improves. Your eyesight has improved a lot. I do not know why she refuses to give you a weaker prescription?
It's good that you cannot see though the old, too strong prescription. Don't use them; if you go back to wearing them they will re-tense the eye muscles, brain and impair the eyes shape, lens' function causing the eyesight to reverse back to the increased level of blur that will match the old strong eyeglass prescription. Impaired vision is the only way to see through those glasses. Seems the doctor wants you to lose your improvement.
Preserve your eyesight improvement. Your level of clarity without glasses is darn good! Keep using the Bates Method, work on the close and far switching I taught you on the phone and the usual training practices. 'Relaxation and doing 'nothing'.

You might be legal to drive, work... without glasses due to the 20/40 vision, even if it's only in one eye. Ask your RMV, DMV manager; go in and take a test.

Because I have not worn glasses since 1974 I am not expert on telling you what strength prescription to place in the new weaker glasses if you buy online from the optical places. Everyone is different;
A reduced weaker 20/40 prescription for a person seeing the 20/100 line clear without glasses is different from a reduced weaker 20/40 prescription for a person seeing the 20/50 line clear without glasses.
The clearer the vision; the weaker the prescription; then you reduce it more to 20/40 line on the chart. Lines below 20/40 with glasses on must be unclear.

As the eyesight continues to improve; BEFORE the glasses show the 20 line clear; before they become too strong; it is time for another weaker reduction. (In your case you probably won't need another reduction.)

This is why we need natural eyesight improvement eye doctors to work with us.

Try to find a Bates Method eye doctor if you still need glasses for driving. After you are legal you won't need any more prescriptions.
Some opticians allow you to test different lenses to see what strength shows the 20/40 reduced prescription on their eyechart at 20 feet. Start at the lowest, weakest strength so your not impairing you eyesight by looking through strong lenses as you try different strengths. When you find the correct weaker, reduced 20/40 lenses, write down that number and then buy online if you need to save money. Remember to get your P.D. (eye pupil distance for centering the eyeglass lenses) from the optician. Might not need it if you have your old frames and they fit well. Get the newest P.D. The P.D. might change as the vision improves because strong glasses often cause a wandering or crossed eye condition. (imperfect convergence, divergence.) If the doctor set the old P.D. for that old condition; you might need a new P.D. because the eyesight has improved and that corrects the eyes position to normal. Convergence, divergence imperfection can be slight but a doctor can detect it.

Remember to reduce to 20/40. No 20/20 or stronger lenses. Strong lenses block improvement. No astigmatism, no uv blocking... Keep the lenses even strength in the left and right eyes and both reduced equal as I taught you last week. http://cleareyesight-batesmethod.info/id36.html

List more questions you have and I will get back to you. Let us know how you do.
I will post a video response for you and the other new member soon.

[ClarkNight]

Note to self and others;

There are 2 peters on here. Peter and Pete.

Peter is this thread; eyeglass prescription reduction.

Pete is the man Judy is posting for until he learns computer. Sunlight topic.

[andrewc]

(04-27-2014 02:27 PM)Petersthing70 Wrote:  Greetings,

Been reading up on natural route to 20-20.
Improvement with 3 month application.

I need help working with my optometrist for new glasses. She will not give low strength for myopia.
I can no longer see using the old glasses but see to 50 or 40 line without which is better than before stared the exercises.

Peter

You can try asking for a pair of weaker lenses for 'computer use.' If you state that you feel your full prescription feels too strong for computer use, you may get them to work with you on that. Usually they won't bring it down too far, just a diopter or so.

[ClarkNight]

andrewc,

Welcome and thanks for joining the GuestPage!


Clark
(Mary)

[Petersthing70]

(04-30-2014 03:39 PM)andrewc Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 02:27 PM)Petersthing70 Wrote:  Greetings,

Been reading up on natural route to 20-20.
Improvement with 3 month application.

I need help working with my optometrist for new glasses. She will not give low strength for myopia.
I can no longer see using the old glasses but see to 50 or 40 line without which is better than before stared the exercises.

Peter

You can try asking for a pair of weaker lenses for 'computer use.' If you state that you feel your full prescription feels too strong for computer use, you may get them to work with you on that. Usually they won't bring it down too far, just a diopter or so.

Thank you for options.
Ordered -.50 mail order eyeglasslendirect. If too weak will return to Optometrist for computer reduction -1.00.

[Petersthing70]

Squeezed a -0.50 both eyes out of her. Not needing them much. Changed mail order to -0.25. This will be final reduction?
40-50 not wearing prescription. Still on way to 20-20. See it flash.

To ClarkN; Can you please minimize the 17 page pdf describing directions and warning? I need for showing a printout to a doctor. Just the part about reductions, 1 page? Coworker interested but hassle to read all of it. He has no eye surgeries, does not wear contact lenses.

[ClarkNight]

Hi Petersthing70,

Your eye doctor listened, Hey! Seems you can go without the glasses except if you need for driving, safety at work, ect.. until you get to legal level. Really doubt another reduction is even possible? .25 is weak. I don't wear glasses so cannot give experience on this but I do know that 20/50 without glasses usually goes pretty fast to 20/20 and better. Your free now.

Where did you learn of the method? Seems you improved a lot before you came here.

What level of vision, prescription did you start with and end with before the doctor reduced to this final one?

What initially caused the sight to blur? Any pressure at schools, work, video games?

I will send you a short PDF for your friend and doctor to read; how to lower it, get weaker and weaker glasses.


Thanks for sharing with us,

Clark

[Petersthing70]

Sorry long time not here.

Am free! 20 chart line across dimly lighted room cleared. In sun clear farther past 20 ft. Little print reading ok. Donated glasses to Goodwill. Don't need um!
Appreciate the assistance.


Peter.